Comments for Runaway Daily http://www.runawaydaily.com A Climate Change Blog by Floyd Earl Smith Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:41:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 Comment on Climate Change Strategy for Nonprofits by Floydsm8 http://www.runawaydaily.com/2011/10/13/climate-change-strategy-for-nonprofits/comment-page-1/#comment-1424 Floydsm8 Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:41:37 +0000 http://www.runawaydaily.com/2011/10/13/climate-change-strategy-for-nonprofits/#comment-1424 "Friends of Floyd": please send comments by email. If I don't yet know you, please comment here! “Friends of Floyd”: please send comments by email. If I don’t yet know you, please comment here!

]]> Comment on MAD and Runaway Climate Change by Floydsm8 http://www.runawaydaily.com/2011/05/01/mad-and-runaway-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-922 Floydsm8 Sun, 01 May 2011 07:27:04 +0000 http://www.runawaydaily.com/?p=100#comment-922 Great comment, David! I agree, and I think that China is doing "both/and" - building traditional infrastructure AND green infrastructure, in both cases as if there's no tomorrow. This would make sense if they 1) planned to help other countries burn every last bit of coal and oil AND 2) wanted to have a robust clean energy infrastructure in place to shift over to flexibly as fossil fuels run low, then more or less run out. It also recognizes that they don't have the military power to contest the US for that last drop of oil. Building on both fronts also gives China the chance to be among the leaders, if not THE leaders, in cleantech, which is the industry of the future - if there is much of one, after we burn all the fossil fuels, as seems likely. Is it still a MAD scenario? Well, MAD enough - the US and USSR competed in other arenas, too, while running the nuclear competition close to the edge. But I don't mean to push the analogy too far; unlike nuclear bombs, CO2 is only a weapon by accident. As for invading Canada - a credible ability to do it may make it unnecessary to actually do it. As long as the US can invest in Canada and get resources and food at a reasonable enough price, it may not matter. The South Park people have started on the jingoism, though, just in case... <g> PS I'm going to a Commonwealth Club session this coming Monday night where a Canadian will argue for "ever closer union" with the US, not on climate grounds. Great comment, David!

I agree, and I think that China is doing “both/and” – building traditional infrastructure AND green infrastructure, in both cases as if there’s no tomorrow. This would make sense if they 1) planned to help other countries burn every last bit of coal and oil AND 2) wanted to have a robust clean energy infrastructure in place to shift over to flexibly as fossil fuels run low, then more or less run out. It also recognizes that they don’t have the military power to contest the US for that last drop of oil.

Building on both fronts also gives China the chance to be among the leaders, if not THE leaders, in cleantech, which is the industry of the future – if there is much of one, after we burn all the fossil fuels, as seems likely.

Is it still a MAD scenario? Well, MAD enough – the US and USSR competed in other arenas, too, while running the nuclear competition close to the edge. But I don’t mean to push the analogy too far; unlike nuclear bombs, CO2 is only a weapon by accident.

As for invading Canada – a credible ability to do it may make it unnecessary to actually do it. As long as the US can invest in Canada and get resources and food at a reasonable enough price, it may not matter. The South Park people have started on the jingoism, though, just in case…

PS I’m going to a Commonwealth Club session this coming Monday night where a Canadian will argue for “ever closer union” with the US, not on climate grounds.

]]> Comment on MAD and Runaway Climate Change by David Herron http://www.runawaydaily.com/2011/05/01/mad-and-runaway-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-920 David Herron Sun, 01 May 2011 02:33:45 +0000 http://www.runawaydaily.com/?p=100#comment-920 Are you assuming that China is doing nothing or nothing? The U.S. is certainly doing very little about this. I've attended two Clean Tech conferences recently where the presenters made a strong claim that China is doing quite a bit, and that they're preparing to clean our clock in terms of clean technology development. While the U.S. is largely ignoring the potential for clean tech R&D China is going gangbusters for it. Hence the "Sputnik Moment" message the Obama administration is pushing. So while China is today doing lots of carbon emissions I wonder if they'll do enough clean energy deployment to reverse their trend. But would they go so far as to shut down the coal plants they're currently building at high rate of speed? My reasoning to go through all that is it's not quite a MAD scenario because China is behaving differently than the U.S. In any case it's an interesting thought that the U.S. has more options - we'd just invade Canada, right? Are you assuming that China is doing nothing or nothing? The U.S. is certainly doing very little about this. I’ve attended two Clean Tech conferences recently where the presenters made a strong claim that China is doing quite a bit, and that they’re preparing to clean our clock in terms of clean technology development. While the U.S. is largely ignoring the potential for clean tech R&D China is going gangbusters for it. Hence the “Sputnik Moment” message the Obama administration is pushing. So while China is today doing lots of carbon emissions I wonder if they’ll do enough clean energy deployment to reverse their trend. But would they go so far as to shut down the coal plants they’re currently building at high rate of speed?

My reasoning to go through all that is it’s not quite a MAD scenario because China is behaving differently than the U.S.

In any case it’s an interesting thought that the U.S. has more options – we’d just invade Canada, right?

]]> Comment on US Navy sinking skeptics? by opit http://www.runawaydaily.com/2010/08/17/us-navy-sinking-skeptics/comment-page-1/#comment-682 opit Tue, 01 Mar 2011 19:11:09 +0000 http://www.runawaydaily.com/?p=89#comment-682 What - no innocent until proven guilty ? That's the danger of rampant self-righteousness : no comparison of disparate views. I can help. opitslinkfest.blogspot.com > Topical Index Climate in Contention Perception Alteration ( the second collection was originally named after the framing technique for Moving the Goalposts known as Moving the Overton Window. It deals with shifting from discussion to aggressively changing what seems realistic using psychological techniques which are not noticed by the subject. ) And no, I do not 'deny' Climate Change. Rather than deny 'science', I deny reporting promulgated as dispassionate and fair is anything of that nature...any more than corporate polluters' representatives are. It's a staged confrontation channeling thought in circles of futility. What – no innocent until proven guilty ?
That’s the danger of rampant self-righteousness : no comparison of disparate views.
I can help.
opitslinkfest.blogspot.com > Topical Index
Climate in Contention
Perception Alteration
( the second collection was originally named after the framing technique for Moving the Goalposts known as Moving the Overton Window. It deals with shifting from discussion to aggressively changing what seems realistic using psychological techniques which are not noticed by the subject. )
And no, I do not ‘deny’ Climate Change.
Rather than deny ’science’, I deny reporting promulgated as dispassionate and fair is anything of that nature…any more than corporate polluters’ representatives are.
It’s a staged confrontation channeling thought in circles of futility.

]]> Comment on MIT in Journal of Climate: 10°F Warming by 2100 by What is “abrupt climate change”? « Runaway Daily http://www.runawaydaily.com/2010/06/21/mit-in-journal-of-climate-10f-this-century/comment-page-1/#comment-618 What is “abrupt climate change”? « Runaway Daily Mon, 31 Jan 2011 02:20:38 +0000 http://www.runawaydaily.com/?p=75#comment-618 [...] growing seasons, and so on – take hold gradually. The most dramatic recent predictions, from MIT and others, are for 10F – that’s 6C – of warming this century. While this would [...] [...] growing seasons, and so on – take hold gradually. The most dramatic recent predictions, from MIT and others, are for 10F – that’s 6C – of warming this century. While this would [...]

]]> Comment on US Navy sinking skeptics? by WitsEnd http://www.runawaydaily.com/2010/08/17/us-navy-sinking-skeptics/comment-page-1/#comment-86 WitsEnd Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:50:07 +0000 http://www.runawaydaily.com/?p=89#comment-86 Did he explicitly link the warming with humans causing greenhouse gas emissions? Some deniers will admit there is incontrovertible evidence of warming, but pretend it is "natural". haha Did he explicitly link the warming with humans causing greenhouse gas emissions?

Some deniers will admit there is incontrovertible evidence of warming, but pretend it is “natural”.

haha

]]> Comment on Arctic Methane Leak: But I Feel Fine* by MIT in Journal of Climate: +10F this century « Runaway Daily http://www.runawaydaily.com/2010/03/05/arctic-methane-leak-but-i-feel-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-48 MIT in Journal of Climate: +10F this century « Runaway Daily Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:53:46 +0000 http://www.runawayclimatechange.com/?p=45#comment-48 [...] the report doesn’t take into account many likely feedbacks from climate change, such as increased emissions of CO2 and methane from melting permafrost in the north. These emissions would likely increase [...] [...] the report doesn’t take into account many likely feedbacks from climate change, such as increased emissions of CO2 and methane from melting permafrost in the north. These emissions would likely increase [...]

]]> Comment on Arctic Methane Leak: But I Feel Fine* by Wit's End http://www.runawaydaily.com/2010/03/05/arctic-methane-leak-but-i-feel-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Wit's End Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:58:40 +0000 http://www.runawayclimatechange.com/?p=45#comment-21 bookmarked! bookmarked!

]]> Comment on Book by Why “Runaway”? « Runaway Climate Change http://www.runawaydaily.com/book/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Why “Runaway”? « Runaway Climate Change Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:01:00 +0000 http://rcc.imagicnz.com/book/#comment-19 [...] already done a preliminary survey, and made some initial calculations, in my book, Runaway. My current hypothesis – and my personal belief – is that runaway climate change is [...] [...] already done a preliminary survey, and made some initial calculations, in my book, Runaway. My current hypothesis – and my personal belief – is that runaway climate change is [...]

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